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Summation: Is the Green Party anti-Semitic?

Posted by shannonclark on January 2, 2005

Summation: Is the Green Party anti-Semitic?

I posted the following long comment on this topic:

The other comments miss some troubling points – in looking at Green Party and
other alternative party activities and discourses, there is a very strong degree
of apparent anti-semitism, as well as a number of troubling associations. I base
this in large part on readings about anti-war protestors, of which the Green
Party was active.

For much more detailed and serious research into this
see: (mostly
about France, but discusses the Green Party and other far-left parties more

as well see: for general

Also for a coherent discussion (amidst a not always coherent
one) on Antisemitism and the left see
it is among the archives a mostly left leaning mailing list – found via google)

In essense there is an issue with antisemitism in the far left (and in
the far right). Not, to be sure, with everyone of the left, but a significent
number (and anecdotedly it seems to be increasing) of people on the left seem to
give higher priority to the Palistinian cause than to the right of Isreal to

I am ethnically if not religiously Jewish – so this is an issue
of some importance to me. The casual disregard for Israel that many on the left
seem to have, as well as the easy association with groups who are more virulent
in their support for the Palistian cause has the effect of turning me away from
the radical left (of course as a firm capitalist and political centrist, I’m not
exactly of the far left most of the time, though socially I tend to be in
agreement with the Left and even the “far” left)

Also, the line “no deep
truth has ever been found from statistical analysis” is hogwash. Quantum
mechanics – very much about the deep understanding of the universe is precisely
what happens when mechanical systems break down and statistical methods have to
be applied to understanding the universe. Quantum Mechanics has, in turn, lead
to the application of statistical methods and processes to many other fields –
offering the possibility of studying in the abstract systems that are impossible
to study mechanistically. Much of modern math and modern science is based on
statistics – it is how you deal with issus of probability, with issues of
unmeasurability, with complex, evolving, systems (and with the majority of
systems that attempts to measure also impact and change).

Further, if
you look at modern math and chaos theory it very much argues against the very
simple test that prediction of the future is the only measure of success of a
theory – many of the theories, in fact, argue that 100% “accurate”, long term
predictions of the future are literally impossible. This does not mean that
understanding the future is impossible – but that since chance is involved as
well as lots of precurser states only approximate predictions can ever be made
(think weather forcasts, especially long range forcasts).


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